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	<title>Comments on: visp Interface Screenshot and Features Overview</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hai</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I love the look Mike.

I did build Onyx as an Apollo app way back -- (changing the root .mxml to an .as file will still work).  I was having other problems getting the plugins to be recognized, Apollo doesn&#039;t seem to recognize interfaces made by the normal mxmlc compiler.  I&#039;ll probably circle back after a version with that bug is fixed.

We should do lunch?  I think we were supposed to have lunch with some of the odopod folks at some point anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I love the look Mike.</p>
<p>I did build Onyx as an Apollo app way back &#8212; (changing the root .mxml to an .as file will still work).  I was having other problems getting the plugins to be recognized, Apollo doesn&#8217;t seem to recognize interfaces made by the normal mxmlc compiler.  I&#8217;ll probably circle back after a version with that bug is fixed.</p>
<p>We should do lunch?  I think we were supposed to have lunch with some of the odopod folks at some point anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 13:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks very promising!
could you let me know by email when you release it?

cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks very promising!<br />
could you let me know by email when you release it?</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan W.</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 22:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - a question popped in my head. I was a flash dev for a long time, though a lousy programmer. I have an idea for an app in my head/sketchbook, that I wonder if Apollo might be a useful toolset to approach a solution. 

Basically it&#039;s a better &lt;a href=&quot;http://mediashout.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Media Shout&lt;/a&gt; with a decent interface: an app that lets me put videos in a queue, play them, but set loop points and do basic overlays (announcments, etc.). Something that would give me decent video performance (I don&#039;t even need to composite two, though crossfading would be nice). I see a work-table-like environment for zooming in &amp; out of the &quot;show&quot; with expandable &quot;mini-shows&quot; within, and a &quot;live&quot; and &quot;next/preview&quot; monitors.

Media Shout _works_, but man it&#039;s ugly and the UI is not very user-friendly. After my last event, I can&#039;t get this vision out of my head. Any thoughts, anyone? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; a question popped in my head. I was a flash dev for a long time, though a lousy programmer. I have an idea for an app in my head/sketchbook, that I wonder if Apollo might be a useful toolset to approach a solution. </p>
<p>Basically it&#8217;s a better <a href="http://mediashout.com/" rel="nofollow">Media Shout</a> with a decent interface: an app that lets me put videos in a queue, play them, but set loop points and do basic overlays (announcments, etc.). Something that would give me decent video performance (I don&#8217;t even need to composite two, though crossfading would be nice). I see a work-table-like environment for zooming in &amp; out of the &#8220;show&#8221; with expandable &#8220;mini-shows&#8221; within, and a &#8220;live&#8221; and &#8220;next/preview&#8221; monitors.</p>
<p>Media Shout _works_, but man it&#8217;s ugly and the UI is not very user-friendly. After my last event, I can&#8217;t get this vision out of my head. Any thoughts, anyone? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan W.</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very, very cool stuff - I&#039;ll be watching. I hadn&#039;t heard of Onyx, I&#039;ll have a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very, very cool stuff &#8211; I&#8217;ll be watching. I hadn&#8217;t heard of Onyx, I&#8217;ll have a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-809</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 19:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to backtrack there, Oinx in a great cross platform app. I had completely overlooked it, but having just messed around with it, I&#039;m really impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to backtrack there, Oinx in a great cross platform app. I had completely overlooked it, but having just messed around with it, I&#8217;m really impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-808</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks good. Sounds like you&#039;ve got the right idea.

I absolutely agree with your gripes, especially on the UI and true cross platform support. My favourite visual app is Resolume, mainly because of the UI, but I always wished it could be ported to Mac. I assume that it would be more stable on a mac. I never found any program with a UI that good on a Mac.

The only cross platform app that I can think of is Arkaos, and I hate it for all the reasons listed in your article.

Open source is also great, so long as it doesn&#039;t affect the stability. 

So yeah, good luck with the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks good. Sounds like you&#8217;ve got the right idea.</p>
<p>I absolutely agree with your gripes, especially on the UI and true cross platform support. My favourite visual app is Resolume, mainly because of the UI, but I always wished it could be ported to Mac. I assume that it would be more stable on a mac. I never found any program with a UI that good on a Mac.</p>
<p>The only cross platform app that I can think of is Arkaos, and I hate it for all the reasons listed in your article.</p>
<p>Open source is also great, so long as it doesn&#8217;t affect the stability. </p>
<p>So yeah, good luck with the project.</p>
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		<title>By: MoRpH</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-799</link>
		<dc:creator>MoRpH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 08:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks very promising, will be very interesting to take it out for a spin as I&#039;m very interested like Jonas in moving into some more generative visuals with flash.

&quot;Deliver us from darkness&quot; - VJ 26:18</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks very promising, will be very interesting to take it out for a spin as I&#8217;m very interested like Jonas in moving into some more generative visuals with flash.</p>
<p>&#8220;Deliver us from darkness&#8221; &#8211; VJ 26:18</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Creighton</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-791</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Creighton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 01:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jonas: Enthusiasts and everyone will be able to try this thing out hopefully after Memorial Day weekend. That&#039;s when I&#039;m going to attempt to migrate my SVN repository over to a Google Code repository. I&#039;ll have a nice long list of things that do and don&#039;t work -- and leave it all up to the community to change / implement / remove as they care to. I&#039;m toying with the idea of making the SVN read &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; write capable for anyone who asks, since I think that I&#039;m going to move onto other projects.

@BirdFLU: Like I said in the post, I&#039;m not totally sure that I actually came up with what I intended. I think a common trait of software development is the simple desire to wedge features in (where they aren&#039;t necessarily needed) because the developer thinks they might be useful. So, before I post this to the public, I&#039;m going to actually strip away features since there were definitely things that weren&#039;t useful at all.

@Daniel: I actually spent a lot of time analyzing Onyx-VJ, specifically how you dealt with the general render stack, tempo manager, filters, etc. Then after seeing how much thought and work was put into Onyx&#039;s architecture, I realized that I needed to focus on rapid development / getting the prototype done and working (I had an event driving a deadline). So more thinking re: standardized approaches / design patterns in visp&#039;s architecture definitely needs to be done. However, since I did start from the get-go developing within the Apollo / Flex environment, I think that perhaps my efforts might prove useful as you start to move forward with the Apollo version of Onyx. Obviously there will be drastic difference with approach from a UI perspective since you&#039;ve gone pure AS3 on Onyx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jonas: Enthusiasts and everyone will be able to try this thing out hopefully after Memorial Day weekend. That&#8217;s when I&#8217;m going to attempt to migrate my SVN repository over to a Google Code repository. I&#8217;ll have a nice long list of things that do and don&#8217;t work &#8212; and leave it all up to the community to change / implement / remove as they care to. I&#8217;m toying with the idea of making the SVN read <em>and</em> write capable for anyone who asks, since I think that I&#8217;m going to move onto other projects.</p>
<p>@BirdFLU: Like I said in the post, I&#8217;m not totally sure that I actually came up with what I intended. I think a common trait of software development is the simple desire to wedge features in (where they aren&#8217;t necessarily needed) because the developer thinks they might be useful. So, before I post this to the public, I&#8217;m going to actually strip away features since there were definitely things that weren&#8217;t useful at all.</p>
<p>@Daniel: I actually spent a lot of time analyzing Onyx-VJ, specifically how you dealt with the general render stack, tempo manager, filters, etc. Then after seeing how much thought and work was put into Onyx&#8217;s architecture, I realized that I needed to focus on rapid development / getting the prototype done and working (I had an event driving a deadline). So more thinking re: standardized approaches / design patterns in visp&#8217;s architecture definitely needs to be done. However, since I did start from the get-go developing within the Apollo / Flex environment, I think that perhaps my efforts might prove useful as you start to move forward with the Apollo version of Onyx. Obviously there will be drastic difference with approach from a UI perspective since you&#8217;ve gone pure AS3 on Onyx.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Hai</title>
		<link>http://www.todaycreate.com/2007/05/21/visp-interface-screenshot-and-features-overview/comment-page-1#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Hai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 07:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mike, this is Dan over at Onyx-VJ.  Glad to see someone else doing next gen stuff.  Can&#039;t wait to see what you got cooked up (maybe we can contribute to your project and vise versa)

Also, I think it&#039;s funny that I work for adbe (on certain unnamed projects) with Odopod on that same unnamed project.  Can&#039;t wait to see what you got cooked up ...

- Daniel Hai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike, this is Dan over at Onyx-VJ.  Glad to see someone else doing next gen stuff.  Can&#8217;t wait to see what you got cooked up (maybe we can contribute to your project and vise versa)</p>
<p>Also, I think it&#8217;s funny that I work for adbe (on certain unnamed projects) with Odopod on that same unnamed project.  Can&#8217;t wait to see what you got cooked up &#8230;</p>
<p>- Daniel Hai</p>
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		<title>By: BirdFLU</title>
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		<dc:creator>BirdFLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 06:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been doing music on computers for years and have recently been looking for &quot;the&quot; visual app for me. I see lots of things that are okay, but there&#039;s always some niggle that keeps me from staying with the software. I&#039;m not even a visual performer and I totally understand your list of gripes because they&#039;re mostly the same as mine. I&#039;m anxious to see what you&#039;ve come up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been doing music on computers for years and have recently been looking for &#8220;the&#8221; visual app for me. I see lots of things that are okay, but there&#8217;s always some niggle that keeps me from staying with the software. I&#8217;m not even a visual performer and I totally understand your list of gripes because they&#8217;re mostly the same as mine. I&#8217;m anxious to see what you&#8217;ve come up with.</p>
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